Oh, if there was only a magic pill! Cathie on August 15, I don't like the new system at all- I am short and it is too much food. I ate healthy already so it just lets me eat more and lose less or gain! I like th old points much better- more similiar to counting calories. I joined WW in late June of and within one year I lost pounds. The program is wonderful and has worked great for me. I have learned how to eat healthy and make wise choices.
I am on my last week of maintenance and then will become a lifetime member and I am very excited. Lisa W on August 15, I love the meetings and my leader. As with any "program" YOU alone have to make choices. Yes, I could eat a bunch of crap on WW not that they tell you to and stay within my points. I would become very hungry and not lose much weight and probably drop out. I read all my WW material and listen to every meeting and I choose to make healthy choices! It is so much more than just dropping pounds.
BTW, I have lost 74 lbs and I am one tiny pound away from goal! Libby on August 15, I have been a WW member for a while now. I really liked the system before they dropped the points - it totally derailed me.
I move a lot but I'm not good at recording my activity points so I always ended up in the hole for the week which was discouraging. I love the free fruit. I'm about 4 lbs away from goal but quit going of course i keep paying!
I'm setting my points back to the 29!! Jennifer on August 15, Wait - I laughed out loud at that last story about the son stealing someone's grapes!!
That's a great example of why I will never do WW I want to be thin without still be obsessed with eating. I could be totally off here, but it doesn't seem to me that WW teaches you how to be naturally thin It's all about disciplining, forcing yourself to not be fat.
I would rather learn how to eat like an Italian - to enjoy all things in moderation, never binging nor purging, and never needing to count calories to know if I'm satisfied or starving.
Freaking out about someone eating the grapes is not going to help you feel naturally, peacefully, thin! Kallah on August 15, I like the old ww points. I started ww in July and when the new wwplus started, I was derailed for several months.
I dropped the online subscription and I am doing it by myself. I have lost 95 pounds but my weight loss has slowed down because I do not have that online connection I had before, and I still struggling with that last 20 pounds. Pati on August 15, The one thing I don't like about the new system is being punished for high fiber.
All high fiber foods that were one point are now 3 points and there is no way I can get my fiber for the day through fruits and veggies. I kept track of the calories I ate for about a week. I was surprised how low, only to per day. This included using more than 26 points for the day. I liked the flexibility of the old plan better. I felt like I learned more at the meetings on the old program. An entire meeting on salads? I need more info to be successful. The good health guidelines are rarely discussed and what happened to the emphasis on drinking water?
I will continue for now because I need the support I receive from the other WW members. Pam on August 15, I think it really makes you think about portion size. Apparently, this was one of our issues! I agree, the weight is coming off slowly, but isn't that the 'correct' way, if you want it to stay off? Barbara on August 15, I Loved the older version of WW I followed it to a tee as I'm quite disciplined about this effort.
I went from to before I said adios to the plus and returned to good ol' WW!! I know WW plus works for many so I'm not trying to discourage anyone but if it isn't working for you, just know that you're not alone!! Lola on August 15, I lost about 20lbs on the old plan and that was perfect for me!! Thats all I really needed to loose.
The new PPP does not work for me!! I feel that it encourages people to eat as many fruits and veggies as they want and still eat ALL their points. Its still input and output everyone. If you have eating disorders or other food issuse it may not work.
I loved the old program, I was able to eat my 2 fruits and veggies with humus and have a slad and still drink my wine on the weekends without feeling guilty. Now a bottle of white wine is 15 points as apposed to 10 on the old program. I guess a good way to discourage drinking.
It has worked and I did loose pounds, but for some unknown reason have gained it back again. Didnt change my diet, but did not workout for a couple of days and indulged on alcohol. Oh well, I will keep the staight and narrow and continue to educate myself. I've lost pounds in the past year! My entire life has changed for the better thanks to WW-PP.
I eat healthy and my family eats healthy!!!! Deb on August 15, It's been working for me. Down 63 lbs. It's going a little slower now than at first, but I know I need to move more than I have been!
Kathy on August 15, I have lost 20 pounds on the Points Plus program, but I hate it. I find the meeting demoralizing I don't go anymore, found a great support group instead. I like that it is a simple system, but any diet works if you stick with it its not that diets don't work, its that diets don't last. I find I lost more and felt better when I ate less carbs, but ww doesn't discriminate between carbs good or bad and proteins.
Also, I find myself using unhealthier options because they are less points Splenda in stead of Agave or honey For now, it is A system that is better than nothing or better than my calorie a day regular life. I do like the extra weekly point allowance that is in place to keep members not feeling deprived although I have only used it once. Robi on August 15, I am a lifetime member from the old system, and haven't been thrilled with the new system.
For me, the old way worked great! So why mess up a good thing? I am at my goal weight so I just maintain, but when I need to lose, I do it strictly for a couple of weeks.
I can't ever seem to lose on the new system, so I still use my points slide and do the old way. I also have every point memorized for the old system too. Suzanne Massey on August 15, I think it depends on the person and thier commitment.
I see a nutritionist and that works for me. Lots of my coworkers recently joined WW and they are having great success. They need those weekly meetings and stuff. Also fruit and veggies are so good for you they should be no points :. I lost 35 lbs 18 months ago and have maintained it for a year.
It is so much easier and satisfying than the old program. I starved on the old program. But I eat powerfoods and exercise has been a part of my life for 32 years now. You have to use common sense with the fruit. I love it. Maggie on August 15, I did the W.
It's wonderful to have the freedom to "choose" what to eat, and the free fruits and veggies are great! I have lost 30 pounds in 5 months. Not fast, but steady and I am not hungry! Judy on August 15, I've tried various diets over the years and I was apprehensive about WW at first. It's essentially calorie counting, so why bother with WW, so I thought? Then some colleagues of mine mentioned it and I figured why not give it a shot?
I think the Points Plus program is a much better idea, because it encourages healthier foods, more produce in your diet not a bad thing here in the US , and it emphasizes portion control an issue of mine. I don't like how WW in general focuses on calories rather than overall nutrition.
I think I'd rather eat more natural, whole foods, rather than some fake diet foods. Granted, some food swaps are worth it, like Laughing Cow, like Almond Breeze.
Others aren't, but that's just me. I started WW Points plus in April of , and have lost about 30 lbs, and kept an additional 10 lbs off. It's not perfect, but I find it keeps you accountable of what you eat. You keep track of your money, why not keep track of your calorie intake? Aren't some items a "better bargain" or value with your money?
Why not the same with food? Danielle on August 15, I started WW Online one month ago with a 10 pounds goal. I'm already down 8 pounds and the inches are starting to show : I really didn't know how this could work, but I couldn't do it on my own. I absolutely love tracking my food and haven't missed a day. Even my husband has started eating healthier--that's a bonus! I just needed help losing some belly fat and inflamation and this has helped me.
I will continue my online subscription because it keeps me accountable. Susan on August 15, Everything depends on how much weight you need to lose.
People who need to lose a lot of weight will lose a lot the first week. But those that need to lose lbs will lose only a couple of lbs the first week if that. I am a lifetime member. I lost 40 lbs back in When I see the pounds creeping up,,,I just go back to measuring and eating right. As a lifetime member, I know what works for me, so I go back to that program which worked real well for me Barbara Walger on August 15, I actually work for WW and did during the transition to PointsPlus.
As someone who pays a ton of attention to what we should be eating and the science behind it even if I don't always follow them I loved that WW had taken in the new science and adapted the program. However, I virtually stopped losing weight after the switch. I think it was mostly psychological because I'd done so well on the old program. I think new member probably do much better having never experienced another version.
Currently I think the biggest problem with PP is how they have us explain the program to new members. It's not enough information and I think it leaves people very frustrated. Emmy on August 15, I have been a life time member of WW since I have had sucess with all the programs.
First time I lost 43 lbs and then had some stuff happen in my life and gain it all back. I have been doing points plus and have lost 37 lbs and still continuing. I think WW is the best!! Laurie Griffith on August 15, I have never done WW before this summer, so this is all I know. I've lost 12 pounds in about 6 weeks. The best part about it is that it has changed my thinking. I am much more inclined to eat fruits and veggies because they're no points.
When hunger strikes mid afternoon, I load up on grapes to make it thru until dinner. Thats significant because I used to eat junk food in the afternoon!! Erin on August 15, It's working for me now I'm going to meetings, measuring and tracking religiously but it did not work when I was trying to do it on my own just using the online system.
What I've found now is that I was overestimating portions, feeling too much flexibility because of the extra weekly points allowance.
The emphasis on fruit is really good for me. Dee on August 15, Lost weight and became a Lifetimer on the points plan. Loved it, was able to maintain my weight loss I had many recipes that had worked very well for me, that now had too many points. I decided to just get rid of every thing I had for the Points plan, go for the Points Plus. It does work, but it does work much slower!!!! And they need to provide a slider to show PP, for us that do not have a smart phone.
Pam I agree, I do not enjoy the meetings as much. Not to many Adult Drinks Ha Ha have fiber in them. Gloria on August 15, I really like the new system and the fact that fibre is now taken into account. It makes me aware of all aspects of my food choices and encourages one to eat a healthy amount of fruit and vegetables. The one aspect that annoys me is that the only way to obtain a full list of the PointsPlus for each food is to spend extra money on either a specially programmed calculator or a larger book.
However, I found online a couple of sites that have an online calculator, which apparently makes Weight Watchers very cross, but makes me very satisfied! Vivienne on August 15, I used WW many years ago and did great with it. After losing 60 pounds last year on my own and coming to a stand still, I decided at the beginning of this year to give it a try again. I was VERY disappointed, and like your mother, ended up cancelling my subscription and going back to my old method of counting calories and exercise imagine that!
Angela Winters on August 15, W on August 15, I've never tried WW, but I was reading through everyone's success stories and just wanted to tell you all that you are incredible people and have inspired me this morning! Stephanie G on August 15, I never did the old program, so I can't compare. But I do like the WW program. It is flexible, and encourages healthy options and portion control. For me it will be a total lifestyle change, not just a temporary one.
And although I'm the only one in my family actually doing WW, my family has benefited, too. I lost just over 40 and met goal on Christmas Eve , and then lifetime in early Change isn't always easy, especially when the progam is working. Even in the PointsPlus, then made changes from their original launch -- as it became PointsPlus I'm still liking the progam, but I don't really attend meetings anymore.
But I still track everyting and use eTools religiously! Debbie C. So far, I've not felt deprived at all and even have had some difficulty using all the points on a couple of days.
I did WW about 13 or so years ago and became miserable with it after a month My fingers are crossed for success on the "new" program, although I'm trying to be realistic about having some difficulties due to menopause. Thanks, Snack Girl! And thanks to all who took the time to comment! I feel much less alone. Melanie on August 15, Nicole on August 15, For someone who is insulin resistant or diabetic, unlimited fruits can be a real problem.
Even though the fiber in fruits and veggies is better for you than the fiber in whole grains, it doesn't counteract the carbs in sugary fruits like bananas.
I am always hungry, frankly fruit and veggies just aren't enough when you're very active physically. I am grateful for the extra points activity gives you and the weekly extras but like I said I'm always hungry! However, it has reminded me about portion control. And variety. The program does not seem to have been designed for the less than 20lb to loose. Claudia on August 15, I've been on the program since March. I've lost 30 lbs. I think if one is not thrilled with the direction that they see at meetings In fact my leader has encouraged people to do this.
Eileen on August 15, Despite the very slow weight loss, I still love the diet. If anything I developed better eating habits.
Amy on August 15, I had zero experience with Weight Watchers before I joined last September, so I can't compare, but I quickly and easily lost 34 pounds and have maintained for almost six months. I love that fruit is "free" in reality it's just factored into the daily calorie count but it definitely makes me more inclined to have a fruit snack than a calorie pack of junk! I never deviated from the plan and I rarely ate my weekly points - that probably helped. But in the end, isn't it all just a mind game?
It's a simplified way to reduce calories, and that's all. But yes, it worked VERY well for me and for a few of my friends. Marla on August 15, Coming back to it as a lifetime member since and only about 12lbs to lose I am having a tough time making headway.
I think it has a lot to do with the fruit for me so I am going with only two servings a day even though it is free. I am going to try that for a few weeks and see how it goes. I started Points Plus, online-only, in January, and by the end of May lost 30 pounds. Now, I 'think' I'd like to lose 10 more, but I have maintained that weight since then -- so that's good.
I think the PP has more 'accountability' for 'what' you eat than the old system -- I did WW once about 15 years ago, and at the time, I remember it seemed to me that if I ate half my daily 'points' in cheetos, it wouldn't matter. Now, in essence, I'm 'punished' if I eat a bag of cheetos!
Well, I can't eat as much the rest of the day, is what I mean! It DID encourage me to eat more fruit -- and daily. It DID encourage me to track, track, track. I am STILL 'on' it, but am now going to do a day Michey's ladder thing, ultra-clean eating, AND give up hard alcohol which I always found room for in WW , to give me that extra 'nudge' to finish up to my desired goal -- but I have also learned that tracking for the foreseeable future is where it's at for maintenance.
I routinely ate more than my allotted points 26 allotted, usually ate ! I also thought the price was good -- and I have made many Snack Girl treats to go along with my program! Only problem is it was so easy to eat four or five of them. Heidi Hottinger on August 15, Love PP. I liked the old program, too, but I ate a lot of carbs on it. Kallah said we should be naturally thin and WW doesn't support that. Kallah, if I could be naturally thin then I wouldn't need WW. The off button in my brain that says 'stop eating' is broken, so I have to have external help in stopping.
WW emphasizes that. I am a life time member and I know if I am writing what I eat, even if I don't track the points, I will do well. A year later after feeling so disgusted with myself, I decided to give SM a try. For me it is much easier now, after I deprogrammed the PP out of my brain. I feel more satisfied, and find that I am not really craving carbs and sweets anymore. I have found that I can still work in my goodies and treats, in moderation, and I am losing much better to get back to goal.
In my opinion maybe the PP was way to lenient, and perhaps steering back to the older programs of limiting the sugar and carbs might have been the magic key for me. I have adjusted now to the Smart Points and really like it. I do think it is easier to start new and fresh on it, rather than transition from the previous Points Plus. At least it is working for me, and hope you will give it another chance. In my previous comment I noticed I abbreviated Smart Points incorrectly.
I mean to say SP for SmarPoints. Just wanted to make that correction. Thank you. Hi Amy, Thanks for sharing your experiences. What you are saying makes a lot of sense to me. You really need to have your head in the right place for any program to succeed.
Transitioning from one plan to another can be challenging, especially if you are a creature of habit. Hi there, weight watchers member here! Here's a lil bit about me I'm a 35 year old woman who is 5'4" and weighs I joined WWs June of at lbs, in about 8 months I got down to lbs on points plus. But sadly to say during to now I gained back 30 plus pounds.
So I rejoined. I've been back on WWs for 3 months and can't even lose 10 pounds!! I find myself binging after 2 weeks of being strict with the new smart points.
I wish there was a way where members can chose their best point system that worked great for them. I was eating good and losing pounds ever week!! At one point I lost 6 lbs 2 weeks straight! My WWs speaker asked if I was eating and I said oh yeah all of my points! I so feel like I'm wasting my money every month cause I'm not going anywhere.
But still stick with wws hoping I'll go back to what I was from I know wws changes their points system a lot Oh well good luck to all of you! Maybe my wishfull thinking will come true someday! Hi Adrienne, Thanks for sharing your experience.
What would happen if you just ate like you used to on Points Plus? You might be over in SmartPoints but still lose weight!! Best of luck. Hey - Over ten years ago, I lost over 3 stone with weight watchers, whatever the system was then! I spent the next 10 years putting on a stone and losing it, but basically maintaining. I had a stubborn stone that I was finding it hard to lose, so I decided to go back on WW and support my husband - who has a lot to lose. I'm not actually overweight, so I'm on really low points!
I only have 24 points a day and I'm finding it pretty brutal to be honest. I remember being on WW before and remembering certain restaurant dishes were fine for me now they have a massive amount of points and I find almost everything, aside from the odd very plain salad is too many points for me eating out.
Half a bottle of wine is 10 points!!!! I do also exercise regularly and run and I am feeling like I'm barely eating right now. I'm in the first week, so I don't know how much weight I've lost. It just feels like a struggle. Feeling right now that the points I'm on are just too low - but also worried about using the exercise points.
The problem I am having is that I use lots of fruits and vegetables in my cooking. If you eat them in big chunks, you're fine. I'm meeting my daily points, but when I check what I'm eating against an app that counts calories, I'm coming in around a day.
I don't have the energy I did when I was staying in the range before and I am having a difficult time fighting cravings and not eating at night - another sign that I'm not eating enough.
I exercise 90 mins -2 hrs. And the scale hasn't budged. When I try to chat with someone I'm given the 50 years experience and scientific research and all calories aren't the same routine. I get that. But I always thought that eating too little a day was not a good idea.
Am I wrong? Basically I joined WW because it was easy that I didn't have to track vegetables prepared "clean" and I tend to splurge on the weekends and that's where I thought the weekly points might help. But if you are eating them in soups, sauces, etc, they do not count. I think you have to use your weight loss and energy as a guide. I'm a big believer in finding a system that is sustainable for the long term. I don't do anything to lose weight that I'm not willing to do to keep it off.
Listen to your body and what it's telling you! It knows best! When I first started on WW I was tracking the fruits and vegetables I put in my morning smoothie as though I ate them. Rather than ditch my smoothie I eliminated an afternoon snack to make up for the extra points. I am still tracking my calories using another free app in addition to Weight Watchers.
Before I counted my fruits and vegetables in WW my daily caloric intake was around calories. When I count the fruits and vegetables in my morning smoothie in WW my daily caloric intake goes down to calories. Is that safe? I work out about 15 hours a week. I don't know if that's safe. Hi Caryn, I'm no expert but that calorie count seems too low to be sustainable for the long term. I gained almost all my weight back the I lost on point plus.
I have had wonderful success with WW in the past. Started back at age 48 and have been struggling since i started back. Two months and i haven't reached a 10 lb loss yet.
I feel hungry and deprived. I did not feel this way with PP program. I believe i will give it another week and see what happens and if iam still not getting results, i will switch to the PP instead of the SP.
I started in early November on SmartPoints and then it just shifted to another system. I've been averaging a loss of 2 lbs a week and losing on both. I was frustrated by the new Freestyle system because just when I got my hands around portion control, my daily points dropped and I was forced to make more choices.
On the positive side, what the heck was I doing eating so much dairy anyway? I know I'm a WW and even weight loss noob, but just want to share a positive experience. Larger participants who have more to lose are allocated a larger number of daily Weight Watchers PointsPlus up to a maximum of As well as having their daily allowance, each week has a 49 PointsPlus bonus an increase from the old 35 Points which can be used in one big blow out, spread out across the week, or not used at all, as the individual participant decides.
Adding activity into your day increases your PointsPlus allowance. Different values are given to different levels of activity, the larger number of acivity points being given for the most energy expended.
This is not to say that you have to use it. The weekly cycle of activity points runs on the same schedule as the weekly 49 bonus PointsPlus. This means, you can use the activity PointsPlus you earned on the same day you earned them, or any time during the current PointsPlus week. Along with the changes in the PointsPlus allowance, there has been a significant change in the way points for foods are calculated.
Previously points were calculated based purely on fat, fiber and calories, now the PointsPlus system takes into account carbohydrates and proteins, and disregards the calories. The two biggest changes of the PointsPlus program as compared to the old weight watchers points system, are that fruit is now free of PointsPlus and that processed foods generally have higher points than wholefoods. On the previous points system, participants could and often would, choose an unhealthy option, for example a cookie or a couple of squares of chocolate, instead of a piece of fruit, for the same points value.
In the new Weight Watchers PointsPlus program, participants have the option of choosing fruit for a zero PointsPlus value. Plus, now you have a bunch of Points left over for that sleeve of Oreos! This shift actually makes the whole concept of Points progressively irrelevant. As it should be - because eating for weight loss is not as complicated as it's being made out to be. Though, paradoxically, the Points approach is more confusing because there is no distinction made between a whole roast chicken and a spear of broccoli.
And in odd opposition to mountains of research whole grains are still relatively evil. And that a bowl of unsweetened oatmeal for breakfast is a fabulous and healthy choice. No checking of points required. Which brings me to my "point' - why do we need "points" at all? To let us know that Oreos are bad? Or to encourage us to eat eggs instead of oatmeal??
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